Setting Up Wireless in Ubuntu is Hit or Miss

Rob Williams

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From our front-page news:
Earlier this month, I made a news post discussing some fresh changes unveiled with the latest version of Ubuntu, 9.04 (also referred to as Jaunty Jackalope). I've been using the latest OS on my notebook a fair bit since then, and I have to say, this is easily the best version of Ubuntu I've used to date, and it may well be the best version of an easy-to-deploy Linux that I've used to date as well. It installed easy, and has been working like a charm since.

Because my "netbook" doesn't have an ODD, I installed the OS using a thumb drive. That process in itself is a little complicated, but another option would have been to install it from within Windows. But regardless, on the first boot, everything was working just fine, except for one thing... the wireless. This actually surprised me, because from what I recall, Ubuntu 8.04 detected the wireless just fine on the initial boot.

If I have a major gripe against Ubuntu, it's the fact that minor things can change from release to release like this. Ubuntu 8.04, for example, booted up just fine on the dv2. Ubuntu 8.10 did not (in all fairness though, this could have been due to the thumb drive method I used, even though it's the same for all releases). Then again, with Ubuntu 9.04, it boots up just fine, but the wireless doesn't work. Luckily enough though, getting the wireless to function was unbelivably easy.

After I booted up with the thumb drive, I let the desktop sit for a minute, at which point a pop-up came up and told me I needed to enable a driver in order to use the wireless. Ahh, so there it is. The reason the wireless doesn't work, is due to the proprietary nature of the driver. Why it worked just fine in an earlier release, though, I have no idea. Either way, after I chose to enable the "Broadcom STA wireless driver" and clicked "Activate", I was online within two minutes (it had to download and install the driver via my wired connection).


That's all fine and good. I was able to browse the Web while the install took place (the install took exactly 12 minutes, and resulted in 2.6GB being used on the HDD). Once the install was done, I rebooted and went into my newly-installed desktop environment. No surprise, my wireless didn't work (changes to the Live CD are not reflected in the final install, and rightfully so). This time, though, simply plugging in the LAN cable and downloading the driver didn't work, because Ubuntu didn't come out and tell me like before that I needed to enable the driver.

After plugging in the LAN cable, and updating the entire OS through the built-in updater, something clicked, and I was able to see that a proprietary driver needed to be enabled. Once again, two minutes later, I was online via my wireless. The process wasn't entirely as smooth as I had hoped, but it's still a lot better than it could have been. As 2Tired2Tango mentioned in our forums not long ago, sometimes Ubuntu won't even pick up the wireless driver at all, but this might be limited to Atheros. Either way, Ubuntu 9.04 impresses me quite a bit, and it's reinvigorated my Linux spirit to some degree. It's been quite a while since I've last touched OpenSUSE, Fedora and others, so something tells me I'm going to have to do that soon...
 

2Tired2Tango

Tech Monkey
Thank you for this Rob... I would however appreciate a bit more detail about wireless setup under Linux ... A Step by Step for entering SSID and Passwords would be very helpful... With me and Linux it's definately "See Spot Run" time.... :confused:
 

MacMan

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Even though my first experience with Linux was withYellowDog, I still consider Ubuntu to be my first Linux, since I could never really quite get YellowDog to run in anything other than verbose mode! And that despite the fact that YellowDog was the only other OS that Apple officially allowed to be installed in new Macs along side of OS X!

I've never tried Ubuntu other than with a direct cable connection, so your experience with the wireless aspect both filled me with a bit of fear, and yet, at the same time, with considerable curiosity to try it out myself!

Despite playing around with other Linux distros, I've always come back to Ubuntu, which, by the way, I ran long before it became popular and the face of Linux. Long time Linux users thought I was crazy when I told them about Ubuntu, so with each success of the distro, I feel a little bit of pride, because when it comes to Linux, I consider Ubuntu to be MY Linux!

Glad you got the wireless thingy working to your satisfaction, and hope to try it out myself one of these days as well.
 

Rob Williams

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2Tired2Tango said:
A Step by Step for entering SSID and Passwords would be very helpful...

To be honest, it's no more difficult in Linux than it is in Windows. In fact, it's a tad easier. You click on the wireless icon at the top right-hand corner, select the network, put in the encryption key, and connect. I've included screenshots to show it off.

MacMan said:
I still consider Ubuntu to be my first Linux, since I could never really quite get YellowDog to run in anything other than verbose mode!

Haha! I've been in that situation before, mostly back in the day when that wasn't so rare.

MacMan said:
Despite playing around with other Linux distros, I've always come back to Ubuntu, which, by the way, I ran long before it became popular and the face of Linux.

I tend to agree to some extent. I hated Ubuntu when it first came out, but it's become so refined over the years. I used to like SUSE quite a bit, but over time, I found it became a bit too bloated for my tastes. Not so much in the underlying layer, but the UI and OS theme in general. I still would love to give the latest version a try soon and see if that opinion may change, though. There's also distros like Fedora as I mentioned, but that's one I'm not sure I'll ever live. It's odd, but I just find it complicated to deal with, and so barebones. I'm sure that's not entirely the case, but it's never managed to hook me in the past.
 

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Rob Williams

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No worries, and don't feel bad about not knowing it. If you've never had wireless working in Linux, it'd be impossible to know, and when it's not working, it sometimes looks like it is, because it still allows you to put in certain information. That's a flaw as far as I'm concerned. If you see wireless routers in your drop-down, the wireless works. If you don't, it doesn't. It's a little more clear-cut about that in Windows.
 

2Tired2Tango

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No worries, and don't feel bad about not knowing it. If you've never had wireless working in Linux, it'd be impossible to know, and when it's not working, it sometimes looks like it is, because it still allows you to put in certain information. That's a flaw as far as I'm concerned. If you see wireless routers in your drop-down, the wireless works. If you don't, it doesn't. It's a little more clear-cut about that in Windows.

Ok... thanks again... Actually, on that one machine I couldn't even see the icon, just a notice that proprietary drivers were in use. But then, without wireless it was never connected to a network... I probably should have run a hard wire over and let it chunk away at updates for a while... However; my guy needed the thing for a presentation the next day so there wasn't much time to mess with it.

Next time....
 

Rob Williams

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If there was no wireless icon up top, then I'd have to assume that A) the older version of Ubuntu wasn't quite like this or B) there was no network device working at all. As you can see in the shot above, the drop-down from that icon counts for both wired and wireless, so as long as there's a network connection somewhere, that will show. I could be a little off on this, though.

One idea might be for you to download the latest version and burn it and add it to your pile, that way if something like this ever happens again... ;-)
 
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