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Wayne
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Buy This MOUSE!!!
I have been using the Logitech MX-610 Laser Mouse now for about 5-months and, well I have to say that is without a doubt, the closest thing to “perfect” that I’ve ever had (when it comes to peripherals, that is!). We here at 3D-Aura Inc. reverse-engineer technical products on a daily basis so I’ve seen “The Guts” of literally hundreds of input devices: the MX-610 is one of the most “refined” ‘piece of engineering I’ve yet to see in a mouse, regardless of price or reputation…or hype.
Unfortunately, I’m not at work right now so I don’t have the exact technical specifications on this device. However I will try my best (from memory), to at least answer some of “Clau85’s” questions, as well as to make a comment that I saw in this posting about the Diamondback using a “pure lazer (sic)” system…
Off the top-of-my-head, the MX-610 (from here on known as just the mouse!) uses the Agilent ADNx-6030 (or similar) Optical Bundle which is based on their “LaserStream” technology. This would consist of their newer, second-generation sensor (thus avoiding most, if not all of the peculiar tracking problems found in many of the first-generation laser-based mice produced by both Logitech as well as Diamondback). Furthermore, contrary to what “Jakal” has stated (or perhaps I misunderstood the statement?), this mouse does indeed utilize not only a complete, integrated Agilent Laser Package, it also is using (as I stated above) this package in its second-generation which is truly technically superior (in most respects) to even their first-gen MX-1000.
However, “Jakal”, you are correct in your assertion that this mouse has less “DPI” performance than either the Razorback or the MX-1000 devices. Your are incorrect, however, in stating that the MX-610 is not utilizing “pure” optical system: it is indeed designed around a laser, including the laser itself, as well as laser sensor. The laser (ADNV-6830), utilizes a technique called “Single-Mode Vertical-Cavity Surface Emitting Laser (VCSEL) which is coupled to a “Low-Power Laser Mouse Sensor (ADNS-6030…IF memory serves!), and here is how it works (in brief):
The ADNS-6030, which measures changes in position by optically acquiring sequential surface images (frames) and mathematically determining the direction and magnitude of movement.
The ADNS-6030 contains an Image Acquisition System (IAS), a Digital Signal Processor (DSP), and a four wire serial port. The IAS acquires microscopic surface images via the lens and illumination system. These images are processed by the DSP to determine the direction and distance of motion. The DSP calculates the delta-x and delta-y relative displacement values. An external microcontroller reads the delta-x and delta-y
information from the sensor serial port. The microcontroller then translates the data into PS2, USB, or RF signals before sending them to the host PC.
So much for the optical system! Now, onto the RF system!
As mentioned in the article (and a fine article it IS indeed, thank you!), this mouse utilizes the 2.4GHz freq., but here is where Logitech performs some “magic” to differentiate it from some of the other manufactures (and I believe the “Razorback”, too, utilizes this system?) – it uses (from what I can tell anyway), “Spread Spectrum” technology or “frequency hopping” (yup, just like that used by our military!) to achieve that outstanding, 30-ft. range AND this also would allow it to, basically “change the channel” when and if there were other devices in the area working on the same freq.
Furthermore, as wonderful as the technology used in these mice truly is, I would have to say that the “Razorback” and/or “Diamondback” series of mice does indeed have an edge over the MX-series of mice due to one single factor: the LENS…of all things! From what I understand, the “backs” use an “in-house” design for their lens-assembly, which is superior to those used by other “Mice Makers”. SO, IF I were going to purchase a mouse to be used mostly for GAMING, I wouldn’t hesitate to pickup a Diamondback!
HOWEVER, IF all I wanted was an EXCELLENT mouse to be used for everyday tasks AND SOME gaming, I would definitely recommend purchasing the Logitech MX-610!! OH wait, the “features” i.e. mail and IM, almost forgot!
For me, they are useless. BUT, I believe that they are PROGRAMMABLE so you can use them for other activities, such as scrolling, multimedia, et. al. .
I hope this was enough information for you and, BTW, no, I don’t work for Logitech NOR do I know anyone who DOES work for them!!
Best wishes,
Wayne
Flight Systems Engineer
3D Aura
I have been using the Logitech MX-610 Laser Mouse now for about 5-months and, well I have to say that is without a doubt, the closest thing to “perfect” that I’ve ever had (when it comes to peripherals, that is!). We here at 3D-Aura Inc. reverse-engineer technical products on a daily basis so I’ve seen “The Guts” of literally hundreds of input devices: the MX-610 is one of the most “refined” ‘piece of engineering I’ve yet to see in a mouse, regardless of price or reputation…or hype.
Unfortunately, I’m not at work right now so I don’t have the exact technical specifications on this device. However I will try my best (from memory), to at least answer some of “Clau85’s” questions, as well as to make a comment that I saw in this posting about the Diamondback using a “pure lazer (sic)” system…
Off the top-of-my-head, the MX-610 (from here on known as just the mouse!) uses the Agilent ADNx-6030 (or similar) Optical Bundle which is based on their “LaserStream” technology. This would consist of their newer, second-generation sensor (thus avoiding most, if not all of the peculiar tracking problems found in many of the first-generation laser-based mice produced by both Logitech as well as Diamondback). Furthermore, contrary to what “Jakal” has stated (or perhaps I misunderstood the statement?), this mouse does indeed utilize not only a complete, integrated Agilent Laser Package, it also is using (as I stated above) this package in its second-generation which is truly technically superior (in most respects) to even their first-gen MX-1000.
However, “Jakal”, you are correct in your assertion that this mouse has less “DPI” performance than either the Razorback or the MX-1000 devices. Your are incorrect, however, in stating that the MX-610 is not utilizing “pure” optical system: it is indeed designed around a laser, including the laser itself, as well as laser sensor. The laser (ADNV-6830), utilizes a technique called “Single-Mode Vertical-Cavity Surface Emitting Laser (VCSEL) which is coupled to a “Low-Power Laser Mouse Sensor (ADNS-6030…IF memory serves!), and here is how it works (in brief):
The ADNS-6030, which measures changes in position by optically acquiring sequential surface images (frames) and mathematically determining the direction and magnitude of movement.
The ADNS-6030 contains an Image Acquisition System (IAS), a Digital Signal Processor (DSP), and a four wire serial port. The IAS acquires microscopic surface images via the lens and illumination system. These images are processed by the DSP to determine the direction and distance of motion. The DSP calculates the delta-x and delta-y relative displacement values. An external microcontroller reads the delta-x and delta-y
information from the sensor serial port. The microcontroller then translates the data into PS2, USB, or RF signals before sending them to the host PC.
So much for the optical system! Now, onto the RF system!
As mentioned in the article (and a fine article it IS indeed, thank you!), this mouse utilizes the 2.4GHz freq., but here is where Logitech performs some “magic” to differentiate it from some of the other manufactures (and I believe the “Razorback”, too, utilizes this system?) – it uses (from what I can tell anyway), “Spread Spectrum” technology or “frequency hopping” (yup, just like that used by our military!) to achieve that outstanding, 30-ft. range AND this also would allow it to, basically “change the channel” when and if there were other devices in the area working on the same freq.
Furthermore, as wonderful as the technology used in these mice truly is, I would have to say that the “Razorback” and/or “Diamondback” series of mice does indeed have an edge over the MX-series of mice due to one single factor: the LENS…of all things! From what I understand, the “backs” use an “in-house” design for their lens-assembly, which is superior to those used by other “Mice Makers”. SO, IF I were going to purchase a mouse to be used mostly for GAMING, I wouldn’t hesitate to pickup a Diamondback!
HOWEVER, IF all I wanted was an EXCELLENT mouse to be used for everyday tasks AND SOME gaming, I would definitely recommend purchasing the Logitech MX-610!! OH wait, the “features” i.e. mail and IM, almost forgot!
For me, they are useless. BUT, I believe that they are PROGRAMMABLE so you can use them for other activities, such as scrolling, multimedia, et. al. .
I hope this was enough information for you and, BTW, no, I don’t work for Logitech NOR do I know anyone who DOES work for them!!
Best wishes,
Wayne
Flight Systems Engineer
3D Aura
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