Why You'll Never See a 200Mbps Internet Connection

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For those of us who use the Internet for a bit more than e-mail or browsing the web, the desire to have a fatter connection is usually hard to avoid - you know, unless you happen to have a personal OC/3 line. Virgin topped the charts last week though, when they announced deployment of their 200Mbps net connection, currently in very limited tests in Ashford, Kent, UK. The problem though, is that currently, you'd never see such speeds from a home connection.

Ars takes a look the reasons why, and they vary from hardware limitations to technical limitations. As it stands today, most people don't have a gigabit network, which is exactly what you'd need to handle these speeds. Otherwise, you'd be limited to a 100Mbps connection, half the potential. But even if you do have such a connection, there are other factors to weigh in... such as overall load on the community network.

Bandwidth is usually shared and split up between a neighborhood, and if someone on there had essentially the equivalent of 20 regular broadband connections, that's bound to cause some bottlenecks. The other limitation are the servers you're connecting to yourself... chances are very few, if any, download servers will allow such speeds on a per-user basis. I at one time managed to download a file at 10MB/s off another server from our server, which was impressive, but that's still only half of 200Mbps, roughly.

While impossible now, I'm sure such speeds won't always be impossible. As for those with anything more than 10Mbps down and 1 Mbps up... I'm jealous. I feel like I'm stuck in the stone age here!

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Each node on a cable system is set up in a loop, with every home on that node (up to several hundred) sharing the total bandwidth. Verizon's FiOS also shares, but it divvies up 2.4Gbps between 32 homes; DOCSIS 3.0 cable systems can share around 160Mbps with up to 400-500 homes. Even during peak periods, the line is filled with data only about 10 percent of the time, so the "oversubscription" model generally works well—but heavy use by many users will cause slowdowns, especially on the upstream link.


Source: Ars Technica
 

Doomsday

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i have a 1Mbps down and 256Kbps Up..soo that makes me from the.. wots the age before the stone age?!? Big Bang age!?!
 
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Kougar

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That was an informative read. It's somewhat amusing to contemplate that users will eventually be subscribing to internet service faster than their 100Mbps computer or router can handle.

i have a 1Mbps down and 256Kbps Up..soo that makes me from the.. wots the age before the stone age?!? Big Bang age!?!

That's still better than 56K or ISDN or even basic low level DSL service... even if it isn't much compared to the faster tiers out there I will admit.

There's a certain point where such internet speeds begin to have diminishing returns. TWC finally rolled out a service upgrade locally in an attempt to bury their recently failed plans to implement greviously low line caps, and I've found out 15Mbps down is more than what most sites will transmit files to you at.

I figured if anyone could saturate my connection it would be Microsoft when I went to download Windows 7 RC from Technet, but low and behold even that took almost 12 hours because their servers were so badly under load (and apparently had crashed a few times around noon that day). One OS install later I figured at least Steam would redownload my games super fast... nope. They capped their download at 1.2MB/s, about 10Mbps so downloads still took anywhere from 1-2 hours per game.

I guess I'm saying that after I get a 25-30/2Mbps connection, I'd rather see the prices come down than my bandwidth go up. I'm would be happy enough with that kind of speed for the foreseeable future. 200Mbps is a fun number to try and wrap ones head around... but having one would be just like those AT&T commercials: "I'm Bill Kurtis and I'm faster than The Internet" :D
 
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Rob Williams

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It of course depends on the server you're downloading from. Most download sites have per-user limits for how much bandwidth you hog, although I find that a bit odd. The faster you get the file, the sooner you're out of their queue and server. I've downloaded a few things off of some other download sites before though, through our server, and did indeed top out at 100Mbit/s down (was about 11MB/s), so they <em>are</em> out there... just not in huge numbers.

As for being happy with current speed... I'm with you. I'd rather see lower prices as well.
 

Merlin

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I find that some people only use it for email,....and speed doesn't really matter. They could care less how fast it came, just that they get it.
But, Yes, some servers can not upload at that speed anyway.
 

Rob Williams

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Well, there are actually quite a bit of servers that can output far beyond 200Mbit/s, but it's a matter of whether or not you'll get that server all to yourself or not. Some Linux distro mirrors, for example, have 1Gbit/s upload, so if you happened to have everything in order for a 200Mbit/s connection, you'd download that baby fast (~20MB/s). Of course, that's a pipe dream for now, at least for 99.9999...% of the world.
 

Kougar

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Well, there are actually quite a bit of servers that can output far beyond 200Mbit/s, but it's a matter of whether or not you'll get that server all to yourself or not. Some Linux distro mirrors, for example, have 1Gbit/s upload, so if you happened to have everything in order for a 200Mbit/s connection, you'd download that baby fast (~20MB/s). Of course, that's a pipe dream for now, at least for 99.9999...% of the world.

Yes, but that is exactly why many put caps on all of their transfers (such as the steam network), so one user can't sap a disproportional percentage of a server's enormous bandwidth. Doesn't really matter, either way the customer is paying for a fast bandwidth connection they can't fully utilize without mutliple extremely large/fast concurrent downloads going at once.
 

Doomsday

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for a company or a website, like urself, it must be important to have a more UP speed than Down speed right?!? like if u have a 8MB line the maximum upload u might get is 512K. wot if u have servers n loads of data like a gaming site has, gaming videos n cheats n files etc. r these speeds enough or do u have to request more Up speeds?!?
 
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Rob Williams

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for a company or a website, like urself, it must be important to have a more UP speed than Down speed right?!? like if u have a 8MB line the maximum upload u might get is 512K. wot if u have servers n loads of data like a gaming site has, gaming videos n cheats n files etc. r these speeds enough or do u have to request more Up speeds?!?

That's all dependant on how much data the site is sending to people. For cheat sites, the bandwidth wouldn't be too bad, since a lot of it is text, but for sites with lots of images, the bandwidth can be intense (if you're a larger site). But yeah, it's far more important to have a good upload speed on a server. Download speed isn't useless, since it needs to receive requests, but the upload is far more important.
 
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