Samsung 275T 27-inch Wide-Screen
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MacMan
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Specs?
I have a Samsung monitor and I'm extremely pleased with it. 20 inch, 2mm; 2000 contrast ratio, but I'm confused about the specs in the article?
I have been playing with a new $999 Cdn. Samsung monitor with the same 275T name, but which has even higher specs?
They are as follows:
r Type LCD
Analog vs Digital Analog, Digital
Brightness 400cd/m2
Built in TV Tuner No
Contrast Ratio 3000:1
Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1200
Other Dual-Link DVI (HDCP), MagicTune
Product Dimensions 62.9(W) x 48.6(H) x 28.0(D) cm
Product Weight 10.4 kg
Response Time 2ms
Screen Size 27"
Speakers Included No
Warranty 3 Years Parts & Labour
Could it be that the monitor was quietly upgraded just after your review? Any way, I highly recommend Samsung monitors. Ever since Apple invested over $100,000,000.00 in Samsung's monitor division five-years ago, they have been behind virtually all of Apple's monitor's, including the amazing 24 inch iMac!
Great article.
I have a Samsung monitor and I'm extremely pleased with it. 20 inch, 2mm; 2000 contrast ratio, but I'm confused about the specs in the article?
I have been playing with a new $999 Cdn. Samsung monitor with the same 275T name, but which has even higher specs?
They are as follows:
r Type LCD
Analog vs Digital Analog, Digital
Brightness 400cd/m2
Built in TV Tuner No
Contrast Ratio 3000:1
Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1200
Other Dual-Link DVI (HDCP), MagicTune
Product Dimensions 62.9(W) x 48.6(H) x 28.0(D) cm
Product Weight 10.4 kg
Response Time 2ms
Screen Size 27"
Speakers Included No
Warranty 3 Years Parts & Labour
Could it be that the monitor was quietly upgraded just after your review? Any way, I highly recommend Samsung monitors. Ever since Apple invested over $100,000,000.00 in Samsung's monitor division five-years ago, they have been behind virtually all of Apple's monitor's, including the amazing 24 inch iMac!
Great article.
There is no other Samsung 275T other than this one, unless they secretly updated the specs as you said. Where did you get those specs? I will e-mail and ask them what the deal is, but without a source there is not much bother.
MacMan
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Under monitors..
Look under monitors at: www.futureshop.ca
I have seen the monitor in person locally. Nice monitor, but as you pointed out, it really does sit rather high off from the desk.
Look under monitors at: www.futureshop.ca
I have seen the monitor in person locally. Nice monitor, but as you pointed out, it really does sit rather high off from the desk.
I hate Futureshop and wouldn't trust what they say under any circumstances. They are the Best Buy of Canada. That said, their manufacturers code is slightly different than the one I had, so I asked Samsung for their input.
$999 for the monitor is a great price though. For once, something is more expensive in the US.
$999 for the monitor is a great price though. For once, something is more expensive in the US.
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s-Video
You said that Commponent was bad compared to the Dell, but how does the S-Video compare?
You said that Commponent was bad compared to the Dell, but how does the S-Video compare?
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Thanks for the review on the Samsung 275T. However there are a few pieces of information that I am trying to find out, that I couldn't find out anywhere.
1) Is there 1:1 pixel mapping on the DVI input?
2) Is there 1:1 pixel mapping on the VGA input?
I've called Samsung's help center and the techs there didn't know. I know there is 1:1 pixel mapping on component, but that connection is not an option for me.
Basically why I ask is because I want to ideally hook up an Xbox 360 Elite to this monitor using an HDMI -> DVI adapter, and then connect my laptop to the VGA port. The Xbox is not able to output 16:10 resolutions at this time (eg: 1920 x 1200) so I'm wondering whether the monitor will stretch the image to fit the whole screen, or has the capability to do 1:1 pixel mapping with thin black bars along the top and bottom. I don't want a stretched image, so I'm hoping there is an option to switch between 1:1 and full screen.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
1) Is there 1:1 pixel mapping on the DVI input?
2) Is there 1:1 pixel mapping on the VGA input?
I've called Samsung's help center and the techs there didn't know. I know there is 1:1 pixel mapping on component, but that connection is not an option for me.
Basically why I ask is because I want to ideally hook up an Xbox 360 Elite to this monitor using an HDMI -> DVI adapter, and then connect my laptop to the VGA port. The Xbox is not able to output 16:10 resolutions at this time (eg: 1920 x 1200) so I'm wondering whether the monitor will stretch the image to fit the whole screen, or has the capability to do 1:1 pixel mapping with thin black bars along the top and bottom. I don't want a stretched image, so I'm hoping there is an option to switch between 1:1 and full screen.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Sorry, I did not test out the S-Video input. I see no reason why it would be different though.
I can shoot off an e-mail to Samsung and ask. As far as I recall, when I tested the Playstation 3, it did take up the full screen.
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If you have better luck with Samsung than I, then that would be great thanks. Also, maybe the PS3 filled the screen, but by changing the setting on a menu it could potentially be altered to display 1:1. Did you try adjusting this ratio with PS3 via the 275T menu?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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ps3 curiousity
just wondering... when you tried the ps3 over this monitor, were you able to experience blu-ray movies in full 1080p over component? curious if it's affected by hdcp.
also would it possible to use the ps3 on this monitor with hdmi via hdmi-to-dvi adaptor?
cheers in advance.
just wondering... when you tried the ps3 over this monitor, were you able to experience blu-ray movies in full 1080p over component? curious if it's affected by hdcp.
also would it possible to use the ps3 on this monitor with hdmi via hdmi-to-dvi adaptor?
cheers in advance.
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pixel mapping on component?
Actually I got the reply from Samsung that it would stretch the image even using component in (basically at any input as it does not support video modes as 1080i/p). That would explain the bad component performance, when in use with the Playstation 3.
That is actually the reason I am about to order the Dell.
If someone got any different info - please share!
Actually I got the reply from Samsung that it would stretch the image even using component in (basically at any input as it does not support video modes as 1080i/p). That would explain the bad component performance, when in use with the Playstation 3.
That is actually the reason I am about to order the Dell.
If someone got any different info - please share!
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I managed to squeeze this out of someone at Hardforum, but there seems to be so little talk of this monitor anywhere:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1209426
I just don't think I can handle the silver of the Dell. It would especially stand out when using black bars to get the 1:1 mapping. Black bars would blend into the Samsung black border more easily.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1209426
I just don't think I can handle the silver of the Dell. It would especially stand out when using black bars to get the 1:1 mapping. Black bars would blend into the Samsung black border more easily.
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Pixel size is another point to consider
Thanks for the great review. I specially liked the info about how lower the monitor can go. As it is the case for you, I also use my monitor as low as possible, because I am too close to it. Currently, I use a SyncMaster 213T and it can go as low as 4 inches above the surface, which is NOT good yet. I do have to look up to see the upper part of the screen.
So, having a big monitor that can go only down to 5 inches is not good at all. Of course one can try and find a support that would replace the original, but I don't think it would be easy. Ergotron makes nice supports but I don't think the LX model would be able to support such a big screen due to its weight. The model 200 series would, but then, it lacks height adjustment and we would be back to the same problem.
But the real reason I am writing this is to point out the importance of the size of the pixel. My current monitor, 213T, has a pixel of 0.27mm size. This 275T has a pixel 0.303mm. And the new 30" 305T - still to be released by Samsung - will have pixel size of 0.25 mm, as all other 30" monitor available (Dell and HP).
Since the LCD revolution started, companies have squeezed more and more pixels and bigger monitors making the letters and graphics smaller and smaller. When I changed from my 17" CRT to this 21" LCD, I felt the problem. Letters were smaller and my eye sight is not as good as it was when I was 20
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So, when I heard of the 30" 2560x1600 pixel 305T model, by Samsung, I immediately knew that it wasn't a monitor for me, because the pixel size is even smaller than my current one (0,25mm versus 0,27mm). You may think this is a small difference, but considering that 0.27mm is already too small, 0,25mm is even worse, only good for those with eagle eyes, I think.
So, enters 27" 1920x1200 pixel 275T model. The resolution seems not to have increased so much compared to mine (1600x1200) but then there is the catch, the good one: pixel size has increased 12,2%, being 0.303 mm.
I expect this monitor to be awesome in terms of readability. It's very nice to know that companies decided to stop that decreasing-pixel-size war just to have big numbers to show off, like 2560x1600. It's better a smaller resolution that is more readable than the opposite, so I think.
I was thinking on buying the 275T but now, I am almost sure I will wait until I find some solution for its high minimum height. But I will definitely take a look at the Dell model. I am a Samsung nuts, I have begin using Samsung monitors for long, so, I am always afraid of trying other brands, specially because a monitor is bought to last years, so, if I make a mistake, I will regret for long.
Oh, and last but not least, I know I can change the dpi setting via software, like changing from 96 to 120. I have tried this alternative but it doesn't work well in practice as it looks in theory. It seems everything was made/prgrammed with the default DPI of 96 in mind, aka "normal size". Working with 120 dpi gets weird results.
Thanks for the great review. I specially liked the info about how lower the monitor can go. As it is the case for you, I also use my monitor as low as possible, because I am too close to it. Currently, I use a SyncMaster 213T and it can go as low as 4 inches above the surface, which is NOT good yet. I do have to look up to see the upper part of the screen.
So, having a big monitor that can go only down to 5 inches is not good at all. Of course one can try and find a support that would replace the original, but I don't think it would be easy. Ergotron makes nice supports but I don't think the LX model would be able to support such a big screen due to its weight. The model 200 series would, but then, it lacks height adjustment and we would be back to the same problem.
But the real reason I am writing this is to point out the importance of the size of the pixel. My current monitor, 213T, has a pixel of 0.27mm size. This 275T has a pixel 0.303mm. And the new 30" 305T - still to be released by Samsung - will have pixel size of 0.25 mm, as all other 30" monitor available (Dell and HP).
Since the LCD revolution started, companies have squeezed more and more pixels and bigger monitors making the letters and graphics smaller and smaller. When I changed from my 17" CRT to this 21" LCD, I felt the problem. Letters were smaller and my eye sight is not as good as it was when I was 20
.So, when I heard of the 30" 2560x1600 pixel 305T model, by Samsung, I immediately knew that it wasn't a monitor for me, because the pixel size is even smaller than my current one (0,25mm versus 0,27mm). You may think this is a small difference, but considering that 0.27mm is already too small, 0,25mm is even worse, only good for those with eagle eyes, I think.
So, enters 27" 1920x1200 pixel 275T model. The resolution seems not to have increased so much compared to mine (1600x1200) but then there is the catch, the good one: pixel size has increased 12,2%, being 0.303 mm.
I expect this monitor to be awesome in terms of readability. It's very nice to know that companies decided to stop that decreasing-pixel-size war just to have big numbers to show off, like 2560x1600. It's better a smaller resolution that is more readable than the opposite, so I think.
I was thinking on buying the 275T but now, I am almost sure I will wait until I find some solution for its high minimum height. But I will definitely take a look at the Dell model. I am a Samsung nuts, I have begin using Samsung monitors for long, so, I am always afraid of trying other brands, specially because a monitor is bought to last years, so, if I make a mistake, I will regret for long.
Oh, and last but not least, I know I can change the dpi setting via software, like changing from 96 to 120. I have tried this alternative but it doesn't work well in practice as it looks in theory. It seems everything was made/prgrammed with the default DPI of 96 in mind, aka "normal size". Working with 120 dpi gets weird results.
Thanks for the great post Andre. The main reason that the monitor has larger pixels is simply because of the resolution at the given size. Naturally, the pixel width would be larger on a 27" monitor than a 24" monitor, if the resolution is shared.
The reason the 30" has such a small pixel width is because it's only a slight increase in monitor size, but 1920x1200 to 2560x1600 is a huge 1.8 megapixel jump, so naturally the width would be decreased.
"I was thinking on buying the 275T but now, I am almost sure I will wait until I find some solution for its high minimum height."
Sadly, that's the reason I would not purchase the monitor as well, if I were in the market for this size. It's too bad... such a simple issue that could have been avoided. From what I can tell, most Samsung monitors are similar.
If you can find a place that sells the Dell 27" monitor, you might want to check it out as well. It's similar quality, but it actually goes a bit lower:
http://techgage.com/article/dell_ultrasharp_2707wfp_27-inch_wide-screen/
The reason the 30" has such a small pixel width is because it's only a slight increase in monitor size, but 1920x1200 to 2560x1600 is a huge 1.8 megapixel jump, so naturally the width would be decreased.
"I was thinking on buying the 275T but now, I am almost sure I will wait until I find some solution for its high minimum height."
Sadly, that's the reason I would not purchase the monitor as well, if I were in the market for this size. It's too bad... such a simple issue that could have been avoided. From what I can tell, most Samsung monitors are similar.
If you can find a place that sells the Dell 27" monitor, you might want to check it out as well. It's similar quality, but it actually goes a bit lower:
http://techgage.com/article/dell_ultrasharp_2707wfp_27-inch_wide-screen/
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The height adjustment is fine, Magi Tuneworks with 275T
I thought it strange in the review that you complained about height adjustment, reading this thread others dont seem like it either, I have no problem with it, it is judt right for me.
I have been using my 275T for 2 days and I have it sitting on my desk just in front of the keyboard, that is both at the same height, I have it on the lowest setting and it is fine.
In your review you mention that software is not included, your review led me to visit the Samsung download center and I downloaded MagicTune Premium loaded it on XP and it runs the 275T beautifully, the site does not specifically say that 275t is supported but having tried it and found it works perfectly, I think the compatibility list simply has not been kept up to date.
I am using the monitor for graphics so I did the full color calibration using Magic Tune and it works a treat, did a lot of checking to convince myself it is spot on. I was planning on buying Spyder 3 Pro or Eye One, but now I have no need for that.
Thanks for the review and for mentioning the lack of software which lead me to the Magic Tune which is not easy to find if one starts from any Samnsung web site
Magic tune is here,
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/learningresources/monitor/magetune/pop_download.html
select carefully the correct version for your OS before downloading.
I thought it strange in the review that you complained about height adjustment, reading this thread others dont seem like it either, I have no problem with it, it is judt right for me.
I have been using my 275T for 2 days and I have it sitting on my desk just in front of the keyboard, that is both at the same height, I have it on the lowest setting and it is fine.
In your review you mention that software is not included, your review led me to visit the Samsung download center and I downloaded MagicTune Premium loaded it on XP and it runs the 275T beautifully, the site does not specifically say that 275t is supported but having tried it and found it works perfectly, I think the compatibility list simply has not been kept up to date.
I am using the monitor for graphics so I did the full color calibration using Magic Tune and it works a treat, did a lot of checking to convince myself it is spot on. I was planning on buying Spyder 3 Pro or Eye One, but now I have no need for that.
Thanks for the review and for mentioning the lack of software which lead me to the Magic Tune which is not easy to find if one starts from any Samnsung web site
Magic tune is here,
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/learningresources/monitor/magetune/pop_download.html
select carefully the correct version for your OS before downloading.
Hmm... that's very interesting. I'll have to give that program a download with the next monitor I test. I also was considering purchasing a Spyder in the past, but if there is a piece of software that can do almost as good of a job, it would be worth taking a look at.
I just have to wonder how accurate it would be when compared to a hardware solution.
I just have to wonder how accurate it would be when compared to a hardware solution.
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Heat
Thanks for the really helpful review.
Im curious about the one comment you made on the monitors heat output. You said the hottest part reached 47 degrees. Did you noticeably feel the heat emmanating from the front while you worked on the computer for long periods of time?
A friend of mine recently purchased a 28 Hanns G. He loves the monitor, but says he can definitely feel the heat. Even with the air conditioning on. And while he loves the size, he in retrospect regrets the purchase for that issue, thinks he would have preferred a cooler 24.
I have seen reviews where they comment how the heat from the Dell 27 made the review feel woozy after a day in front of it.
Like the stand height problem you had, its one of those minor things that rarely gets reviewed, yet can make a big difference to the overall enjoyment over a long period.
Is this just the 'cost' of having such a large monitor? Or as some brands alot hotter, especially in the front, then others?
Thanks again for your review.
Thanks for the really helpful review.
Im curious about the one comment you made on the monitors heat output. You said the hottest part reached 47 degrees. Did you noticeably feel the heat emmanating from the front while you worked on the computer for long periods of time?
A friend of mine recently purchased a 28 Hanns G. He loves the monitor, but says he can definitely feel the heat. Even with the air conditioning on. And while he loves the size, he in retrospect regrets the purchase for that issue, thinks he would have preferred a cooler 24.
I have seen reviews where they comment how the heat from the Dell 27 made the review feel woozy after a day in front of it.
Like the stand height problem you had, its one of those minor things that rarely gets reviewed, yet can make a big difference to the overall enjoyment over a long period.
Is this just the 'cost' of having such a large monitor? Or as some brands alot hotter, especially in the front, then others?
Thanks again for your review.
I'm not sure how you could be sitting so close to a 27+ inch monitor that you'd feel the heat wafting off it?
Even 24"s get nice and toasty, mine certainly does, but I don't feel it radiating heat beyond a few inches infront of the display. Almost all the heat goes up through the top and back of the unit. Now if there was anything like a shelf hanging over the top of the monitor, then I could see that happening.
Even 24"s get nice and toasty, mine certainly does, but I don't feel it radiating heat beyond a few inches infront of the display. Almost all the heat goes up through the top and back of the unit. Now if there was anything like a shelf hanging over the top of the monitor, then I could see that happening.
The heat can be a definite problem, without question. My Dell 2408WFP doesn't have such a problem, but the Gateway XHD3000 does. I didn't test the temperature off of it though, but I'm sure it would be right up there with this Samsung.
Since I have a smaller room here, I tend to sit rather close to the monitor... perhaps about two or three feet from the screen. I've never actually "felt" the heat hit my face, but the area around the monitor is noticeably warmer, as well as the room itself.
To me, this isn't a show-stopper, but I can definitely see how it would bother some people. If it becomes a real problem, sitting back further might be a good idea. In the worst case scenario, using a fan of some sort to blow towards the monitor would help also.
It would look mighty foolish though, on top of being noisy.
Since I have a smaller room here, I tend to sit rather close to the monitor... perhaps about two or three feet from the screen. I've never actually "felt" the heat hit my face, but the area around the monitor is noticeably warmer, as well as the room itself.
To me, this isn't a show-stopper, but I can definitely see how it would bother some people. If it becomes a real problem, sitting back further might be a good idea. In the worst case scenario, using a fan of some sort to blow towards the monitor would help also.
It would look mighty foolish though, on top of being noisy.