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From our front-page news:
If there's one thing I realize well, it's that from time to time, people can run into a string of bad luck. The past few weeks have proved that fact to me, where computers are concerned at least, and I'm sure I'll divulge more into that at some point. As I mentioned earlier this month, we have some great content coming up, including our review of NVIDIA's GTX 285 and GTX 295, which should have been posted last week. I won't get into all of the reasons for the slow posting here, but I will just say that a) manually re-benchmarking a slew of graphics cards takes a while and b) things that can go wrong, sometimes do.
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Since that could only mean an issue with CUDA I check the NVIDIA control panel just to discover it claimed it was running the original 17x driver that I had just believed to have replaced. I reran the new driver installer and it worked the 2nd time around... that has only occured once but I remember it for that reason.
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wow those drivers r like *dramatic pause* Cursed!!! or something.
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I personally have not had an issue with the 8.12 32-bit drivers from ATI but prior to this batch, I have had nothing but trouble dating back to the Radeon 9600 Pro days. I suppose I have been lucky but for a while, it was bad enough to make me swear off ATI cards from the 9800 XT on. With the 8.12 drivers, I have had a trouble free experience from the time of installation until now.
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I left out a fair amount of information due to the fact that this "simple" news post quickly became eight paragraphs, but I will add that I've been having issues with ATI drivers for quite a while, but most notably in the past year. The real issues began when I began testing ATI's HD 3870 X2... I had the exact-same issue where installing a driver might not do a thing, which again, is very frustrating.
One thing I will note, though, is that most of the time when this happens, it's with a dual-GPU card, not a single-GPU card (like the HD 4870), but as mentioned above, single-GPU cards aren't exempt from this happening either. What's frustrating is that when I mentioned issues to ATI before, they were shrugged off. But, I've been having this issue across numerous platforms and the problem still persists. Quote:
I just realized yet another issue, but this is exclusive to a dual-GPU card, it seems. During the level I use for Call of Duty: World at War (~ then 'devmap pel1b'), there is a large explosion (missile hits the tank), and at this point, the game will crawl down to the low double-digits (as you'll see in our review of the GTX cards posted later today). This did not happen on the HD 4870, but only on the X2 card, and it doesn't occur on any NVIDIA card I've tested. In that case, I disabled Catalyst AI as well, and that fixed things, but get this. Doing that effectively turns the card into a single-GPU offering in that game (FPS perform on par with a single HD 4870), so you pretty-well want to go against doing that, since the card performs well elsewhere. I'm starting to think it's a memory issue though, because there were a few titles that wouldn't work with high AA with that particular card, so I dunno. I need to get a second HD 4870 X2 before I claim that, I think.
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ATi should hire some Nvidia Driver Coders to Code their Catalyst Drivers or something or stop using .Net like u mentioned.
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If you have the graphic settings too high, yes your frame rates will suffer.
When I first loaded GRID, I thought my game was at the fault, but the settings where way too high, until I got the GTX 280, then I could scream through frames
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Not to give NVIDIA a nod, but I never had an issue with that game with SLI'd GTX 285's or a GTX 295 (or even Quad-SLI). I still stand by my thoughts that ATI's drivers need a serious revamp. I know NVIDIA's drivers aren't perfect either, but I've had so many issues with ATI cards in the past 1Y+... it's just too frustrating :-/ I e-mailed AMD a large e-mail explaining the entire gamut of issues, so I look forward to hearing back and seeing what I can figure out.
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