View Full Version : HUGE PROBLEM! needhelp asap.
madstork91
03-28-2006, 11:39 AM
While casually browsing this morning all my IE windows shut down and all of a suddent my comp had downloaded some new anti spyware program. WTF??? Upon its down load a nice little message was coming up from the taskbar
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3205/errormsg6sa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Upon seeing all of this and deciding that this programs assumtious action of scanning my hdd for spyware and viruses was ****ed up... I clicked start/theprogram/uninstall... Afterwhich now nothing wants to run exactly right. For instace the only way for me to get to a website now is to open up mycomputer and type in a web address. Thats right... the normal IE icons will not launch IE...
Here is a list of what applications are running on my comp. Feel free to review them and tell me what and how to remove from the shit asap. ty.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3486/applications5av.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Jakal
03-28-2006, 02:11 PM
I'd suggest a system restore. You can find it in the Help and Support option on the Start menu. It's listed under Performance and Maintenance in the Help and Support window. If you've got any antivirus programs you should have run those first.
I don't know all of the programs you've got installed but your app list is horribly long. I've only got 35 processes in mine.
Just be sure to get your antivirus and spy-ware ad-ware programs running to get rid of the bug. If all else fails there's always C:\format C: :D
I hope you can get it worked out!
Rob Williams
03-28-2006, 02:15 PM
If you are foolish enough to use IE, don't bitch to us when you have stuff like this happen.
:)
living_joke
03-28-2006, 03:25 PM
You got like TWICE as many programs running in Windows XP then you should upon a normal bootup.
And according to your task manager you have IEXPLORE.EXE running twice. It thinks you are running internet explorer, whether you are in fact doing it or not.
Your biggest problem is having automatic downloads turned on. You should never download an application unless you MANUALLY tell it to download. Automatic downloads can be hijack by malicious software, and that is probably how you got infected in the first place.
madstork91
03-28-2006, 03:39 PM
Mat would dissagree with you on the automatic downloads part.
Ok... this spyware remover has reinstalled itsefl while i was away at class... the name of it is spyware quake 2.0
As for the number of applications... a few of them are related to the wireless kayboard and mouse... the rest iunno wtf...
madmat
03-28-2006, 04:05 PM
Set your browser to ask before downloading anything. Go get Spybot Search & Destroy and AdAware and run them. There are spyware proggies out there that are actually spyware infestations and that's what I'm afraid you got hit with.
You can also get with me in I.M. and I'll point you to some other help.
Rob Williams
03-28-2006, 04:23 PM
Or use Firefox/Opera so this shit doesn't happen in the first place...
What does it take to get people to realize that IE is nothing but problematic...
Yes Techgage is going to launch a new feature soon that if you visit the site in IE, it will automatically download and install Firefox and set that as your default browser. It will do all of this, automatically and for free! We plan on launching this new feature on April 1st.
discharge
03-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Yes Techgage is going to launch a new feature soon that if you visit the site in IE, it will automatically download and install Firefox and set that as your default browser. It will do all of this, automatically and for free! We plan on launching this new feature on April 1st.
It would be funny if you could use the security holes inside of IE to automatically install a non-microsoft browser like FireFox. Make use of Microsoft's weaknesses to get people to change to a different browser :)
It would be funny if you could use the security holes inside of IE to automatically install a non-microsoft browser like FireFox. Make use of Microsoft's weaknesses to get people to change to a different browser :)
Yep, thats exactly what were going to do.
xstatic
03-28-2006, 06:09 PM
Yep, thats exactly what were going to do.
I would like to see you do that, but I will miss you when Microsoft catches on to what you are doing and sues you. It was nice knowing you while it lasted.
I would like to see you do that, but I will miss you when Microsoft catches on to what you are doing and sues you. It was nice knowing you while it lasted.
Microsoft doesn't sue people for exploiting holes in their products. And if you looked closer you would notice that I said it was going to launch on April 1st. If you still don't understand then, O.o
madstork91
03-28-2006, 08:49 PM
i guess thats all i can do... i think i have adaware on here now, mat ill beback on later to catch you.
Fr00zen
03-29-2006, 12:12 AM
Or use Firefox/Opera so this shit doesn't happen in the first place...
What does it take to get people to realize that IE is nothing but problematic...
I been using IE since Windows 95, and update to the newest version everytime it comes out. I never had adware or spyware installed on my computer. The trick is making sure you setup IE with the proper settings.
It is not the browser that is at fault. In this case it is the user at fault. The biggest mistake you can make with IE is leaving certain features turned on at all times especially dangerous features like active scripting. You should only activate those features for sites you trust. IE has 3 different security settings that they call "zones". You have the general purpose "Internet Zone" and you have a "Trusted Sites Zone". On my IE, only those sites which I add to my Trusted Sites Zone have features like active scripting and java turned on. I went thru with a fine tooth comb and my general Internet Zone only has those minimal features that are absolutely necessary turned on. Only my Trusted Sites Zone get access to the additional features.
Rob Williams
03-29-2006, 12:17 AM
Or you could just use Firefox and not have to change anything...
I am not saying if you use IE that you will always run into problems, because you are right... you can use it wisely and be problem free. This is not the problem with Madstork. It's clearly evident that IE is his problem, so that is why I recommended Firefox or some other alternative browser.
Yes, you know how to use IE safely.. that doesn't mean others want to go through all the hassle of setting up 'zones' properly, especially when these alternative browsers currently offer better protection anyway you look at it.
madstork91
03-29-2006, 12:20 AM
I just recently came across this...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/index.php?p=802
Im far from the only person having this problem currently... even ppl far wiser than me are being annoyed. Yes its the same problem...
Rob Williams
03-29-2006, 12:28 AM
And you still won't get the hint to use a different browser.
Sorry for being so blunt, but I don't know what it would actually take to make people realize that IE is shit.
Fr00zen
03-29-2006, 12:34 AM
I just recently came across this...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/index.php?p=802
Im far from the only person having this problem currently... even ppl far wiser than me are being annoyed. Yes its the same problem...
I went and read that page. They provide links to a tutorial that shows you how to remove it. Did you follow the instructions in the tutorial and did you successfully remove it?
madstork91
03-29-2006, 01:15 AM
I am in the last step of the process right now... scanning it using that panda site...
Im so far not impressed. It is scanning all my files one by one and within the first 5 min it shows the status thus far as: 7 viruses, 40 spyware, 3 hacking tools/potentially unwanted tools
Kinda BS if you ask me. I ran adaware before i found this thing, it removed a few items, nothing big. I also used spybot s&d... I find it hard to believe that much could have so easily been located by an internet based scanner so quickly.
Edit: Oh and as for the problem being solved... Yeah! that shite aint on me no more... and IE is operational again.
Id also like to make it clear that IE isnt usually my browser of choice, but I do use it often.
madstork91
03-29-2006, 01:33 AM
sry for the double post... but a double edit seems rediculous and im kinda updating the progress anyhow.
This panda scanner bassically found the "viruses" to really be nothing more than places in certain programs that "might be vulnerable" to certain types of viruses. WOW...
as for the spyware... Cookies, one of which was from adaware.
Oh and the "hacking" tools... Spybot and adaware... I cant remember what the third one was.
Angela Miller
03-29-2006, 01:36 PM
Oh you should also download and use Windows Defender (use to be Microsoft Anti-spyware). I use it and it catches quite a bit of problems that may come in through holes.
It is not the browser that is at fault. In this case it is the user at fault. The biggest mistake you can make with IE is leaving certain features turned on at all times especially dangerous features like active scripting. You should only activate those features for sites you trust. IE has 3 different security settings that they call "zones". You have the general purpose "Internet Zone" and you have a "Trusted Sites Zone". On my IE, only those sites which I add to my Trusted Sites Zone have features like active scripting and java turned on. I went thru with a fine tooth comb and my general Internet Zone only has those minimal features that are absolutely necessary turned on. Only my Trusted Sites Zone get access to the additional features.
Actually, the browser is at fault. The user didn't make the bugs, the browser did. If they browser didnt have bugs, the user would not have to worry about them. And really we shouldn't have to worry about safe lists or some shit when it comes to browsing the web. The browser should take care of all that for us. This is why IE sucks because it fails to do that effectively.
chillout
03-29-2006, 04:52 PM
Oh you should also download and use Windows Defender (use to be Microsoft Anti-spyware). I use it and it catches quite a bit of problems that may come in through holes.
Didn't Microsoft come out with a new anti-spyware program? I don't remember the name, but last time I went to Microsoft's website I remember seeing a beta version there. Like a few months ago.
madmat
03-29-2006, 05:10 PM
sry for the double post... but a double edit seems rediculous and im kinda updating the progress anyhow.
This panda scanner bassically found the "viruses" to really be nothing more than places in certain programs that "might be vulnerable" to certain types of viruses. WOW...
as for the spyware... Cookies, one of which was from adaware.
Oh and the "hacking" tools... Spybot and adaware... I cant remember what the third one was.
Dude, Panda blows chunks, I never use it. Get AVG or Kaspersky if you want good A/V software. AVG is even free!
Didn't Microsoft come out with a new anti-spyware program? I don't remember the name, but last time I went to Microsoft's website I remember seeing a beta version there. Like a few months ago.
Yes, it was called Anti-Spyware but it is now called Windows Defender and includes anti-virus and anti-spyware scanning.
Rob Williams
03-29-2006, 06:00 PM
Dude, Panda blows chunks, I never use it. Get AVG or Kaspersky if you want good A/V software. AVG is even free!
I agree, Panda is just as bad as IE is as far as I'm concerned. I was trying to help someone with a problem once because Panda was messing up on them. I decided I would try to do the same things they were doing to help see what the problem really was.
What happened in the end? Panda ate every single e-mail in my sent folder in Thunderbird. Needless to say, I lost respect for that program instantly. It didn't even 'ask' to clean a file... it just went ahead and destroyed all of the e-mails.
phonywish
03-29-2006, 07:39 PM
Always backup your entire hard disk once a month. With the fast DVD writers that are available today, you could back it up pretty fast to DVD-RW. I recommend DVD-RW because this way you can re-use the same disks each month when doing the backup.
It may take a little time and trouble to do the backup each month, but when a disaster happens you will be very happy that you have a full backup. When a virus strikes restore the full backup and no more virus. Or at worst you are put back to where you were before the virus was activated, then you just scan and delete the virus before it activates again.
Uc-ker
03-29-2006, 08:41 PM
I just recently came across this...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/index.php?p=802
Im far from the only person having this problem currently... even ppl far wiser than me are being annoyed. Yes its the same problem...
A friend at college got infected by it too.
Did not take him long to fix it. I'm a little shocked that it is taking you a long while to get it fixed.
madstork91
03-30-2006, 10:56 AM
didnt take me that long really... I play football, and between classes, meetings and practice, I only have so much time here and there to fix the occasional problem. In all i may have spent 2 hours on the problem after i identified it.
Oh and some of the best $ i ever spent was on my external hdd. :)
xstatic
03-30-2006, 02:57 PM
Microsoft doesn't sue people for exploiting holes in their products. And if you looked closer you would notice that I said it was going to launch on April 1st. If you still don't understand then, O.o
Ever occur to you that I was making a joke myself? :D
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